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@Darth Mauling

You are correct that on some level that the average movie goer would have some difficulty in understanding the deeper aspects of the game’s lore, if a film were to focus exclusively on an event from the lore that was not directly related to the present day events in a retelling of HZD, though I was thinking more on the lines of the recent Fallout TV Series that while it had various references to different characters and events during the games it was not a direct adaptation but rather a continuation of the original series set after Fallout 4,

Though I understand that trying to advance the timeline of the current storyline would potentially reduce the narrative potential of the upcoming third game and upcoming multiplayer game, with the potential that a high level overview of the lore could be provided by a replay of several important holograms such as The Good News, The Bad News and GIAI’s Dying Message, with the possibility that the framing device of the story might be Aloy and Beta going over several historical documents and holograms that would via APOLLO go into greater detail about various Old World events 

Though I believe that between a Film and a TV Series, given the length of the game’s cutscene and its higher important datapoints would take upwards of 40 hours of playtime, with at least 5 to 10 hours of cutscenes, that I would have preferred the now cancelled Horizon Netflix Series, even if it was a retelling of the original game, that was already retold in a remaster and to a lesser extent in the Lego game, 

With a Potential storyline being that Elisabet might have been involved in the creation of Vast Sliver as a precursor to what would eventually become GIAI, only for Ted to either directly or indirectly attempt to turn the first true AI into a weapon, that after it’s escape could have been covered up, even to Elisabet herself, and her finding out maybe years laters with either Tilda and/or Travis help, would have been the final straw after Ted openly started making weapons, with a hypothetical storyline expanding the various small fragments of lore seen in datapoints

Though I find the idea of a Horizon Film to be an interesting idea, though given that according to the article it seems like it will retell the story of the original game again, after the original, remaster and Lego spin off, and believe that it could realise the production values of the various Machines in a somewhat better quality than the previously announced and seemingly cancelled Netflix series if they are both life action rather then animation.

Though I would be more interested if it went the direction of the Fallout Tv Series where it created an original story set in a new corner of the pre-existing game universe rather then a different continuity altogether, though going forward in the timeline could potentially rob some of the narrative that is going to be used in the upcoming third game based around the fight against NEMESIS, and although I would be interested in seeing either the perspective of an Operation Enduring Victory Solider fighting against the Swam or Elisabet’s building ZD or her earlier life in greater detail,

Given that Aloy would no doubt be the central character I could imagine and hope that a film could show the 6 month gap between HZD and HFW, maybe revealing an untold story about her searching for a backup of GIAI and the event leading up to her reaching the Far Zenith launch facility, with her being involved in another off screen adventure where she managed to help with a localised problem that could factor into her future fight against NEMESIS

@Guy who types stuff 1.1

Regarding Aloy revealing truth about ZD and potentially by extension allowing mass use of Focuses and APOLLO, due to the fact that widespread knowledge of the truth would cause the various cultures to collapse if handled incorrectly, combined with the looming threat of NEMESIS, I can imagine Aloy while wanting the world to know the truth, would recognise that a sudden change would bring chaos and undermine her efforts to defeat NEMESIS

That she would initially in a potential meeting with the various leaders of the different tribes, reveal the truth in full detail, so as to give them full context about NEMESIS and it’s actions, and during the crisis be willing to share knowledge about ZD that would fit the cultural context of the different tribes and after the defeat of NEMESIS be willing to slowly introduce new technologies and truths about history to the wider world that would not immediately result in global chaos

I could also imagine that NEMESIS given its ability to assume any from biological or technological, would learn of Aloy’s efforts and potentially assume her form either via impersonating a hologram or creating a servitor vessel that was physically identical to her, and subsequently revealing the truth about ZD and potentially Enduring Victory and twisting history to paint Elisabet and by extension Aloy in a negative light to undermine her efforts and reputation among various tribes

What do you think?

In my mind regarding a new element that could be featured in Horizon 3, given that several aspects of Far Zenith’s technology is based around nanotechnology, and the high likelihood that NEMESIS would make use of similar if not even more advanced technology, that given Beta’s knowledge of science that she might as part of the preparations against NEMESIS give Aloy, potentially in the late game, similar to giving her a Sunwing override in HFW, various weapons that would feature a weaponised from of nanotechnology that would be especially effective against the nanotech heavy technology of Far Zenith

With the potential that nanotechnology based weapons and ammunition could contain a computer virus or series of directives that would cause the nanotechnology fired at to immediately disrupt its current form and fall onto the ground inactive, I could even imagine the possibility that if such weapons were late game that they could potentially connect with Aloy’s overriding abilities and enable her to override massive numbers of ZD machines to use against NEMESIS and control them individually

@Guy who types stuff 1.1

Regarding how Aloy and Co would manage to defeat NEMESIS, in addition to the idea of The Odyssey being crashed into NEMESIS’s physical form being part of its destruction, what other ways do you think could be used to either defeat, restrain or prevent NEMESIS’s attacks against the world;

In my mind regarding means to defend against NEMESIS given that Beta took the second Kernel from the Proving Lab and latter managed to take it with her after her escape from FZ, though after those events the second Kernel was not brought up again, with the Kernels being key to retrieving the other Subordinate Functions, with Aloy hypothetically being able to retrieve the remaining two functions at once or maybe even act as the additional space needed to hold Hepth without having to risk GIAI at GEMIN

Maybe in the third game given that NEMESIS had already been able to overcome the security defences of a fully functioning GIAI, maybe Beta would develop several different Kernels that would individually hold copies of the Subordinate Functions and GIAI and hide them in different ways as a further backup mechanism in the case where NEMESIS overwhelmed ZD again, allowing for the it’s system to endure another similar attack 

As for a similar idea given the Subordinate Functions though not intended to be a set of true AIs like GIAI, they could be turned into a greater AI to protect them, maybe as a sense of characterisation could have been given a digital human form that would have taken inspiration from their original Greek counterparts, it would have been interesting to see Apollo taking physical inspiration from Athens and Minerva from Sparta or maybe even DEMETER and ARTEMIS taking plant or animal forms, in addition to a greater capacity to communicate and articulate ideas, maybe manifesting themselves in the edge of GIAI’s dome in the base

Maybe in the next game in order to further empower GIAI to be able to take on NEMESIS maybe the Subordinate Functions would need to be further developed to in turn enable GIAI greater computing capabilities, potentially by deliberately using a modified version of NEMEIS’s signal to in a controlled way turn the Subordinate Functions into full AI’s that would work in tandem with GIAI, as several of them such as MINERVA, AETHER, POSEIDON, and DEMETER were able to be convinced or even welcomed to return to GIAI, granting them a human level of intelligence that would have originally appeared only in GIAI, particularly MINERVA given her cybersecurity expertise to digitally protect ZD

As for means to attack NEMESIS, potentially MINERVA’s a potential revered engineered version of the Extinction Signal could be created that similar to the original version that split GIAI and her subordinate functions could be sent to NEMESIS that would split the individual minds of FZ that makes up NEMEIS either weakening it by dividing and conquering the individual digital versions of FZ or allowing the digital version of FZ to given their normal personalities could weaken NEMESIS

Another possibility could be to using AETHER with its power over the sky and atmosphere could be to create large electromagnetic storms across the planet that would force NEMESIS, if it requires a physical presence on Earth, to land on predetermined areas in Earth without the presence of Tribes to be harmed and by making use of the other Subordinate Functions would turn the area into an inhospitable environment for NEMESIS, possibly having POSEIDON to create localised flooding conditions to physically drown NEMESIS or keep it in place by forcing it into a situation where it could not survive, with HEPHAESTUS either independently or working with GIAI would attack it

Another possibility could be that given that it was made up of failed copies of the minds of FZ, that Aloy and Co would be able to take advantage of the various mental characteristics and traits of FZ, such as their overwhelming overconfidence and egotistical image of themselves. As a do not think that any version of Tilda would be able to kill a “superior copy” of Elisabet, maybe leading to a situation where NEMESIS might manifest itself using holograms of the individuals used to create it, imagine several hundred versions of Tilda’s fragmented mind hosted on holographic servitors with fighting styles, (not at all a reference to The Matrix)

In the aftermath of NEMESIS given what is known in the current lore, what do you think might be the next big threat or storyline after the current trilogy is completed, given the report that GG has plans for at least 16 different Horizon Projects;

In my mind given that Far Zenith was originally revealed in the first game only in the form of various datapoints, albeit ones that were clearly in the line of where the player would easily find them, that given that before the Faro Plague there were a number of things that could have ended the world yet ultimately did not until the Faro Plague, such as potentially during an expedition into an Old World location an unwittingly unleashed the virus created by Naysay Doom

As for another idea, given the high probability that the true knowledge of the fall of the Old World and the history of ZD would in some fashion become commonplace during Aloy’s attempt to rally the world against NEMESIS, that in the event of Aloy’s death or otherwise incapacitation for a prolonged duration, that without her charismatic presence keeping everything together against a common enemy, that the various tribes would have their own interpretations of Aloy’s legacy,

@Guy who types stuff 1.1

In regards to Aloy returning to the Sacred Lands after defeating NEMESIS and living the rest of her life in her old home, I do see your point, though given Aloy’s history with the Nora and not seeing her old house as a home without Rost himself being alive I think that Aloy would not permanently live there, though I do see the possibility given the importance to both Aloy and Beta, and think that it’s lack of appearance during HFW given the geographic area was a missed opportunity, that in the aftermath of defeating NEMESIS both sisters would seek to rebuild Elisabet’s old childhood home, both with elements of the Old and New World, I could even imagine that Elisabet’s old home could be the staging area before the final battle against NEMESIS given its emotionally connection with both sisters 

Though I do believe that by the end of H3 that the machines created by ZD would in some fashion be peaceful towards humanity, I'm think there would be some sort of threat that would need to be would be in the future, if NEMESES was defeated without any consequences either in defeating it, there would be a lack of stakes, maybe given that the Specters lack an override, if NEMESES creates its own machines, maybe given the resemblance between the Specter and the Scarab, it in addition to other machines could create updated versions of the remaining machines of the Chariot Line, with some being left after NEMESIS was destroyed and inactive though could become a threat in the future

I can also see the possibility that if Aloy and Beta did create a global inter tribal organisation, that they would reveal the truth about the downfall of the Old World and the history of Zero Dawn, either in its entirety and unfiltered through the current tribes cultural landscape or at least during the crisis against NEMESIS be willing to somewhat accept painting the history of Zero Dawn in mythical forms until the crisis had passed, though possibly avoiding portraying themselves as a mythical chosen one, not wanting to add to the view of Aloy and perhaps Beta as another Anointed of the Nora or Ansestor Reborn by the Quen,

With the possibility that during the arrival of NEMESIS and the current biosphere degradation the world was currently experiencing, that Zero Dawn would suffer catastrophic damage from the defeat of NEMESIS and some aspects of the terraforming system would loss some of their effectiveness at least to the point where humanity would not survive fully, with Aloy bringing together the various tribes to have them help in maintaining the terraforming system, including aspects that were previously inaccessible due to the loss of APOLLO and being able to study from its vast database of human history and technology

@Aniu18

Though I do consider the idea that Aloy might be killed during the battle against NEMESIS, given that her character development during HFW was after trying to emulate Elisabet and nearly losing everything, only to understand that she was not a complete copy of Elisabet and be her own individual, that while Aloy would given her character be more than willing to sacrifice herself to protect the world, that sacrificing herself might be too similar to Elisabet’s ending given Aloy’s previous character development

If there was an event where Aloy not be the focus for the immediate future after H3, I could imagine an ending where she might be critically injured in the final battle where the scene would fade to black, though given that Cryogenic technology had been developed to Far Zenith, she could be placed in cryogenic sleep to allow her injuries to heal in a hidden New Game Plus Ultra mode secret ending, with her survival kept secret by her friends from the world to protect her from those who might either seek to worship or harm her until she was completely healed

With a potential reference could be in Brin referencing to Aloy that in his final vision of the future that she was “fallen, pale as snow-flash… eyes staring open”. I could take it to in a stretch be a foreshadow of Beta giving that she was rescued by Aloy in the Ninmah Lab giving that she cryogenically froze herself, with the possibility that given that cryogenic sleep would effectively freeze someone in time that it might an indication that Aloy at some point might be frozen in cryogenic sleep

Given that Aloy due to her upbringing feels little attachment towards the Nora and her newfound love for the world and determination to saving people, I could see the potential that she might attempt to create a fully functioning and public inter-tribal organisation, essentially growing from her current group of friends that include members from almost every currently known tribe, that together with Beta, and her greater knowledge of the Old World, would both seek to introduce and integrate knowledge of the past and help prevent future crises

With the possibility that given that she views herself as Aloy despite the Nora, and her own disinterest in being venerated as the Anointed by the rest of the Nora, that Aloy would in some capacity self identify with her newfound organisation, maybe named after Zero Dawn, and given that she has currently only fully known a about the various tribes of North America, and to help heal the world in the aftermath of whatever damage caused by NEMESIS, would set out on a global spanning mission to bring together the various tribes across the world

@MagzPandaHorizon

I like the idea of Aloy and potentially Beta travelling back in time to the early 2040’s to see a younger version of Elisabet and being tempted though ultimately choosing not to alter the timeline, let something even worse happen, though maybe to expand the idea further and introduce NEMESIS into the idea:

Potentially after returning to the present day and trying to capture HEPH, an equal amount of time that Aloy and Co have spent in the past has passed in real time and NEMESIS in some fashion has either independently or through interrogating HEPH, created a time machine that would itself either digitally or physically travel through time and in a refined fashion allowing itself to exist without endangering its own existence while simultaneously changing the course of history

With Aloy and Co coming back to an even worse future, though possibly GEIMI might exist in a temporal limbo outside of historical changes with GIAI in a mobile transport rig being active, and everyone needing to travel back to the past in order to ensure the safety of the future, maybe going back to multiple different dates in the Old World to ensure that history was preserved

With the possibility that NEMESIS might target Elisabet during the 2040’s and while remaining alive would be injured and potentially Beta given their similar intellectual capabilities and physical age would need to impersonate Elisabet to ensure history was “close enough”, and at an even greater scale need to convince Tec to create the Chariot Line after an agent of NEMESIS convinced him to go in a different direction that would ensure his dominance of the future and create The Glitch that would lead to the Plague in the first place.

I also have several different ideas about how time travel could be implemented into Horizon,

Scenario #1:

Starting several years after the events of Burning Shores, in an alternate timeline, and 1 year after the apparent destruction of NEMESIS, it would unleash its final contingency plan in the event of its demise and send a message to itself in the past, though it would unknowingly split the timeline apart and unwittingly bring various different versions of Aloy, Beta and others into the present of the primary timeline after the events of Burning Shores, with the Primary Aloy and Co needing to help the various temporal stranded individuals back to their original timelines let the past, present and future be negatively affected,

Primary Timeline - Aloy and Co just after the events of the Burning Shores are searching across the world for anything and anyone that could help them with the goal of defeating NEMESIS, the FZ HQ has become Sylens’s personal laboratory outside the Base during his and Beta’s attempts to develop an alternative Helph Subordinate Function. Aloy is searching the various ruins of Old World companies and everyone else is rallying the different tribes together

NEMESIS Defeated Timeline - 70 years after the defeat of NEMESIS in a timeline were its demise led it not to attempt its fail safe, Aloy and Beta are both into their early 90’s and have been leading the reconstruction of the world and have become the leaders of a Transnational Organisation, Second Dawn, that guides and advises the various different tribes and slowly reintroducing advanced technologies and are assisted by the third generation of Sobeck Clones

NEMESIS Victorious Timeline - 6 Months after the failure of the final attack against NEMESIS, due to Sylens trying and failing to try to overthrow the internal minds within NEMESIS and upload his own, the final outpost of humanity is the FZ Base and Aloy and Co considering evacuating the plant with who they save with NEMESIS creating cybernetic clones and reverse terraforming the planet,

Corrupted Aloy Timeline - NEMESIS rather than remaining on Sirius sends its digital conscious to Earth over 15 years and becomes aware of and subsequently tries to mentally control Aloy and in time in between the events of HZD and HFW would strike, only to temporarily effect her and her morals slowly becoming more dark over time, ultimately destroying NEMESIS though becoming fully corrupted herself and turning herself immortal to “protect” the planet, turning the planet into an eternal Injustice 1984 government to control everything

Young Elisabet Timeline - A 20 year old Elisabet from 2040 just after she started working for FAS would be brought to the future alongside her mother to the timeline of 3041, with both interacting with Aloy and Co, who would be unaware of which timeline that they originally hail from the Primary Timeline or an alternate timeline already known or unknown, though eventually finding out that they were from an unknown timeline and informing the younger Elisabet of the events that occurred during the next 25 years, leading to a world without the Faro Plague

Alternative ZD Timeline - Rather than being informed by Ted about the Faro Swarm on the 31st of October 2064, Ted instead continued to try and contain the situation in his own way, and it was not until the 1st of January 2065, that Elisabet had though her own means learned of the Swarm and began contacting the USRC, and that with complete data, her original ZD plan could not be reached if tried across the planet, and instead reluctantly agreed to work with FZ to create a version of ZD that would work on terraforming another series planet to rebirth humanity, with Tilda forcibly making Elisabet immortal and Ted managing to stole away

Sylens Transcendent Timeline - In this timeline Sylens was able to successfully firstly turn himself into a Zenith level immortal by using ZD tech unknown to Aloy and later uploading his consciousness into the then empty space of NEMESIS after its defeat, eventually leaving Earth to learn the secrets of the Apollo database, with him eventually becoming aware of the fact that the Apollo database was incomplete and looked into other realities and contacting different versions of himself, hoping to find the totality of human knowledge, creating an “Inter Dimensional Council of Sylens”,

Young Aloy Timeline - In this younger version of Aloy that was the from the past of the primary timeline, and thus connected to all the older branching timeline versions of herself, a six year old Aloy just after finding the Focus, would be sent to the past of the younger Elisabet timeline and be found by Ted, who after deducting from the Focus, would learn of the future and seek to control and manipulate the younger version of Aloy, that would impact the future versions of her,

Scenario #2:

Given that NEMESIS was designed to provide a framework of digital immortality and mind uploading, with the fact that the Lightkeeper had the goal of creating clones of the original Alpha’s to complete ZD

While the protocol was abandoned midway through development, with the fact that early versions of mind uploading had already been developed by the time of the Faro Plague, potentially Lightkeeper would have created physical clones of the original Alpha’s with them later copying their thoughts and memories from one body to another, with something similar I believe could have been a way in the cannon games that Ted could have escaped from his bunker as an alternative form of immortality,

With the possibility that in my hypothetical story, Elisabet would have eventually discontinued the protocol due to needing to effectively grow a new person with their own sense of self and destroy it in order to upload their own minds as a moral compromise to far for her to accept, though the mind copy of Elisabet from a later point of ZD’s development was saved and the basis technology maintained, with the Alpha’s after her death would reluctantly opt to go against her wishes and create a new clone for Elisabet to inhabit, only for Ted’s actions to prematurely stop their efforts and take the technology for his own,

With NEMESIS’s Signal eventually being sent to GIAI and GIAI would reactivate the efforts to create a new Elisabet, only to not go completely according to plan and the newborn Aloy would be found by the Nora, with Aloy over the years before the Proving have incomplete flashbacks to events of Elisabet’s life mixed with her own time, with a mental phantom of Elisabet would eventually emerge and communicate with Aloy, though due to the process of the mind upload being incomplete and Elisabet not wishing to take over Aloy’s mind, Elisabet’s knowledge of current events would be limited to the point before the Faro Plague began

What do you think?

@MOZEOH

I like the idea of HEPHAESTUS making a version of the Tallneck that is built for combat, possibly even making the regular mini game of climbing the Tallnecks into a miniature boss battle where Aloy and Co would need to fight up to the top and override it.

I could also see the possibility that given that during the Burning Shores DLC the Metal Devil was classified as a Titan level weight class, similar to its previous lore, that during the events of H3 HEPH might attempt to create more machines of similar size, potentially causing Aloy and Co to need to stop its production of those new machines during a story quest, I can also see the potential that HEPH might try botanical-based machines again by combining aspects of the Control Towers from the Frozen Wilds and the Metal Flowers ability to rapidly reproduce

In my mind given that FZ in the form of Specters that were composed of nanotechnology that where capable of via the Regeneration Unit to obtain damaged nano plates, in addition to having come into contact with the FZ Printing Matrix that is faster and more efficient than a Cauldron, and possibly even becoming aware of the protective shielding used by FZ, I could see the following happening:

Instead of having machines that would be created from the single source of Cauldrons, I could imagine HEPH deploying a series of Printing Matrix or possibly creating a type of machine that internally processes a Printing Matrix or a combination of both, that would allow for the rapid deployment of new machines closer to the source of an attack and responding with different types of machines that would better combat the problem, with the destruction of a printing matrix being a key factor of a fight,

Maybe with the addition aspect that machines produced from a printing matrix would each have unique override codes, that could render overriding less effective or to obtain the help of a machine it to be created from a friendly cauldron, maybe even from the repair bay underneath The Base in the third game or other local Cauldrons after they had been overridden, maybe with HEPH abandoning Cauldrons and moving towards less decentralised machine creation

With another aspect being that HEPH would integrate the personal shielding of FZ into its designs and that the anti shield weapon would need to become an everyday aspect of hunting, with the possibility that HEPH being aware that such a countermeasure exists and not fully believing it’s inability to be bypassed fully would instead of having a singular level would create a multi level armour that would individually protect different aspects of the individual machine from being attacked, with a unique arrow or other weapon being created with a small scale version of the anti shield weapon that would temporarily remove it,

@MagzPandaHorizon

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@Guy who types stuff 1.1

Thank you for your kind words, here are some of my thoughts about how the machine combat could change in the next game:

In my mind given that FZ in the form of Specters that were composed of nanotechnology that where capable of via the Regeneration Unit to obtain damaged nano plates, in addition to having come into contact with the FZ Printing Matrix that is faster and more efficient than a Cauldron, and possibly even becoming aware of the protective shielding used by FZ, I could see the following happening:

Instead of having machines that would be created from the single source of Cauldrons, I could imagine HEPH deploying a series of Printing Matrix or possibly creating a type of machine that internally processes a Printing Matrix or a combination of both, that would allow for the rapid deployment of new machines closer to the source of an attack and responding with different types of machines that would better combat the problem, with the destruction of a printing matrix being a key factor of a fight,

Maybe with the addition aspect that machines produced from a printing matrix would each have unique override codes, that could render overriding less effective or to obtain the help of a machine it to be created from a friendly cauldron, maybe even from the repair bay underneath The Base in the third game or other local Cauldrons after they had been overridden,

With another aspect being that HEPH would integrate the personal shielding of FZ into its designs and that the anti shield weapon would need to become an everyday aspect of hunting, with the possibility that HEPH being aware that such a countermeasure exists and not fully believing it’s inability to be bypassed fully would instead of having a singular level would create a multi level armour that would individually protect different aspects of the individual machine from being attacked, with a unique arrow or other weapon being created with a small scale version of the anti shield weapon that would temporarily remove it,

I can also see giving that there was speculation about creating a replacement for HEPH and that below the Base is a Culdron, that in the third game that the current override system might be expanded to include a system where players can create and customise various combinations of machines and potentially increase the number of machines available at once, maybe for every Thunderjaw sized machine the player could use five Watche sized machines, with players needing to salvage parts from defeat machines to build new machines

What do you think?

@Guy who types stuff 1.1

I like the idea that NEMESIS would seek to create a vessel for itself that would be based on the Mad Sun-King, though I could see a situation where NEMESIS might do both, or even expand the idea by potentially creating vessels based upon the various different leaders of the tribes and maybe even having Teersa being kidnapped and replaced with a NEMESIS controlled vessel, I could also see giving that Aloy’s friends have left her immediate vicinity that NEMESIS might seek to kidnap and replace at least some of them to further manipulate Aloy

As for how NEMESIS might use a vessel based on the Mad Sun-King, depending on how much NEMESIS knows or outright fabricates it might use the fact that in reality it was Ersa who landed the killing blow rather than Avad, giving that part of the acceptance that Avad was king that the power of the sun switched from his father to him due to him having killed the Mad Sunking, to create a loyal following among the remainder of the Shadow Carja and use its space station sized from entering into orbit as a form of the Burned Shadow, with the potential that to create chaos NEMESIS might restart the Red Raids combined with overrides machines

As for the potential for NEMESIS to use a clone of Elisabet to help rule the world, given the fact that within the Quen Elisabet was regarded as an Ansestor, that NEMESIS would use a clone of Elisabet and send her an area of the Quen Empire due to NEMESIS having studied Earth and being aware of its worship of Living Ancestors, maybe from having studied Earth from Data sent back from its Signal or delayed 8.22 Light Years monitoring, with the clone being able to infiltrate the Quen and similar to HADES and the Eclipse turn a hardcore faction into her followers, Second Dawn as a potential name, with the potential that Aloy would become aware of the clone’s existence by GIAI detecting something entering the Earth’s atmosphere and later Bohai via the upgraded Focus that Alva gave him or Seyka informing Aloy of the existence of a mysterious new faction that has ZD tech but being unsure about its leaders identity, maybe using Alpha clearance to help the various problems of the Quen to gain a following but doing so having a negative effect elsewhere.

As for an introduction of the clone maybe her identity would only be revealed until the end of the first act, with her having used ZF armour and possibly upgrading shielding to make herself resistant against any anti shield weapons and potentially using an altered voice to speak in an intimidating manner and hide her identity, maybe using holograms and voice recordings to portray herself as Ted as both to gain greater attention from the Quen with them regarding him as “ the man who saved the world” and maybe to leave Aloy wondering and thus the player if Ted survived in some form, with the possibility that the clone might set her base of operations at either a Cradle or the regional headquarters of Miriam Technologies

With the possibility that the clone would after being informed of Aloy’s existence and being in the Quen homeland would, maybe thinking that Aloy shared her goal and seeing her as a sister would seek her out and reveal herself as a clone of Elisabet and thinking that they had the same goal by believing in NEMESIS’s manipulations, with the third’s clone fake identity being hidden from Aloy, maybe thinking that the lie was necessary similar to Op Enduring Victory, and the third clone would help her sister and also learn of Beta’s existence, only after some time for Aloy to notice inconsistencies and beginning to understand that she and the third clone did not share the same goal leading to their falling out

With the potential that NEMESIS if it gained either full or partial control over the various tribes that it would seek to destroy the world via creating a global conflict between the different tribes and Aloy would need to free the imprisoned leaders of the tribes and remove the imposters, I could imagine that NEMESIS might seek to ruin the world saving reputation that Aloy had gained to further reduce her chances for success.

What do you think?

What do you think?