Machine

I imagine it like this: At first we hear a phone ringtone, and then we see Elizabet Sobeck lying on her bed. Later she leaves her house (she is probably going to work in the Faro Automated Solutions) and while she is walking on the sidewalk to a bus station, the camera turns up and we see Aloy climbing on the lamposts, trying to follow Sobeck.

And while the player thinks I am crazy (because the following theory is a very mind-blowing one), there goes a small flashback:

Aloy and her squad are back at cauldron GEMINI, this time to trap HEAPHESTUS for the second time (without anyone to die, hopefully). When Aloy and Beta are ready to override the cauldron's cores a hord of machines appear, and one of them carries a huge thing full of wires and machine parts. Before someone realises, the machines activate the weird thing and send Aloy and her companies to the PAST!!!!!!!

Now the characters are scattered across the Old Ones' world, and have to find a way to return to the present.

Aloy feels lost and doesn't know what to do, so she wants to find Elisabet.

She arrives to the FAS headquarters and Aloy finds a way to enter the building. When she is ready to talk to Elisabet, Sylens contacts Aloy from his focus and says:

"Aloy, HEAPHESTUS sent us to the past because they knew you were going to find Elisabet, and if you talk to her she might never make GAIA, and that means you, me and the whole world we know would have never existed! Are you sure you want to do this? Then your mission of saving the humanity would fail- do you really want that?"

Since Aloy cannot interact with Elisabet she must find a way to return to the present.

That's what I think for the first mission, and I think it'd be a shame to not return to a new map and stay trapped to the past, in the second mission I find it better for her to return back to the world we know.

What do you think?

I just thought of the craziest thing.

Nemesis arrives on Earth but, for some reason, needs a body, like he wants to get his hands dirty. So, using data from the Zeniths, he creates a clone of Elisabeth Sobeck, but with Zenith-like parts and the ability to turn her arms into weapons, like incorporating Spectre weapons into her body and making them spring from anywhere, or even Spectre-like wings. Then, he transfers himself into the body and the final boss is an evil version of Aloy, a faster, tougher, stronger version of Aloy.

What do you think ?

In forbidden west you can do charger races with the desert tenakth. I’m wondering how this is possible, since aloy and those associated with sylens are the only ones we know of that are capable of taming machines. So where do the other machines come from? Did I miss a plot point of them being members of regalla’s forces?

Given that the machines that make up the Faro Plague only contained land based machines, it seems somewhat unlikely that given that Ted intended for the Chariot Line to become an entirely functional fully automated system that could handle any situation, given the lack of a dedicated machine to Air, Water and Space environments would seem to be somewhat of a deficiency in the overall design, and given that GIAI has access to water and air based machines and NEMESIS is a giant space based machine

Given that in the Datapoint Dagger In My Boot, Walter seemed confident that before he had inadvertently caused the end of the world, Ted was in the process of creating his next project, giving that Ted viewed the Chariot Line as his defining achievement, maybe he intended to reveal an upcoming update to the Chariot Line that would include machines dedicated to those environments, with possible names being Tefnut for a water machine, Nut for a Chariot Line machine dedicated to the sky and Ra for a space based machine giving Ted’s tendency to name aspects of his work after Egyptian mythology

With the possibility that in order to defeat NEMESIS Aloy would at least in part need to use the technology that ended the world in an attempt to defeat NEMESIS, with the possibility that she would be rightly worried that if in using such technology particularly in a hypothetical space based machine with the replication/nigh unbreakable security of the Chariot Line to defeat NEMESIS would lead to the end of the world again by another catastrophic disaster

With the possibility that Aloy and Beta would not trusting the Chariot Line in the capacity to go out of control, would use the technology of the different companies that Walter mentioned while building their own anti NEMESIS like machine with a series of fail safe systems that would ensure that they would not become a threat to the world,

There are a couple datapoints at the end of Forbidden West and Burning Shores where Beta and Sylens Separately speculate that Hephaestus has evolved, having had a brush with Zenith tech when uploaded into the Zenith base printer during the final battle ("Hephaestus revisited" and "Probing the Graveyard" datapoints). How do you think this will manifest itself in the 3rd game? I think maybe similar to how the first game had daemonic and corrupted machines, the second had apex machines, the third may have zenith machines as the "upgraded" variant, with them still looking like the Gaia megafauna representations we've grown to love, but with some zenith tech textures peaking out from within? Or will we see Spectors running around the wild? Would love to hear anyone's thoughts!

If you could combine different machines

What would you combine and What would you name them and What class?

Mine would be Apex Slaughterjaw

Combat class

Slaughterspine + Thunderjaw.

Alternatively: Frostbreaker

Acquisition class

Frostclaw + Rockbreaker

In my mind, given that Hephaestus has taken control over some Cauldrons but having failed to control others, due to humans destroying machines essential to ZD would lead to Hephaestus deeming humans a threat to the survival of the Terraforming System, brief connection with the other Subordinate Functions alongside GIAI and the FZ Printing Matrix could have led to to discover NEMESIS or it could independently discover its existence, maybe by using the global distribution of Tallnecks data monitoring tools to detect NEMESIS entering the solar system

That could lead to Heph coming to the conclusion that NEMESIS would ultimately be the bigger threat to Earth and the Terraforming System, as whilst the occasional human would destroy its machines and individuals having a small impact on the overall survival of the Terraforming System, NEMESIS would seek to destroy everything without exception, possibly leading to Heph becoming something of a reluctant antagonistic morally ambiguous ally to Aloy, in that while Heph maybe in the latter part of any fight against NEMESIS it would still seek to remain independent of GIAI,

With the possibility that in the absence of Heph it would lead Aloy, both before and after any hypothetical alliance between Heph and Aloy against NEMESIS, as it was suggested during its escape from FZ, that Heph’s functionality could be replicated in some form, with the possibility that Beta would go through different ZD facilities to find the original code for Heph and create her own version of it, maybe named Vulcan after Hephaestus’s mythology Roman counterpart, maybe even with such missions resulting in sections of Horizon 3 where Beta would be playable in some capacity,

In addition given that according to CYAN, of the some Cauldrons in the global network had not fallen under Hephaestus‘s control due to their cyber defences being so strong that Heph was unable to break through, could mean that there might be some areas of the world that have not yet experienced any significant threat of the Derangement and its machines still functioning as before NEMESIS sent its signal, with the possibility that if NEMESIS was capable of breaking through the unaffected cyber defences of those Cauldrons to produce its own machines, with its capabilities to print new machines being greater than Heph and in a digital battle for control of the world’s Cauldrons, if Aloy could not prevent both AI’s from having control over them, and that an alternative AI had not been created, she might be forced to reluctantly accept allowing Hephaestus having control over the entire network, if only to deny NEMESIS control over them and with Heph being compared to the technology of FZ slightly less powerful and more within the range of most peoples ability to handle, with Heph capacity to create new machines being substantially less than the ability of a printer of FZ and NEMESIS,

What happand to that land mine abbility we saw in one of the trailers because i never found it

In my mind given that FZ in the form of Specters that were composed of nanotechnology that where capable of via the Regeneration Unit to obtain damaged nano plates, in addition to having come into contact with the FZ Printing Matrix that is faster and more efficient than a Cauldron, and possibly even becoming aware of the protective shielding used by FZ, I could see the following happening:

Instead of having machines that would be created from the single source of Cauldrons, I could imagine HEPH deploying a series of Printing Matrix or possibly creating a type of machine that internally processes a Printing Matrix or a combination of both, that would allow for the rapid deployment of new machines closer to the source of an attack and responding with different types of machines that would better combat the problem, with the destruction of a printing matrix being a key factor of a fight,

Maybe with the addition aspect that machines produced from a printing matrix would each have unique override codes, that could render overriding less effective or to obtain the help of a machine it to be created from a friendly cauldron, maybe even from the repair bay underneath The Base in the third game or other local Cauldrons after they had been overridden,

With another aspect being that HEPH would integrate the personal shielding of FZ into its designs and that the anti shield weapon would need to become an everyday aspect of hunting, with the possibility that HEPH being aware that such a countermeasure exists and not fully believing it’s inability to be bypassed fully would instead of having a singular level would create a multi level armour that would individually protect different aspects of the individual machine from being attacked, with a unique arrow or other weapon being created with a small scale version of the anti shield weapon that would temporarily remove it,

What do you think?

In my mind given that her role via the Apollo Subordinate Function was to educate the first generation of new humans and given that humans were intended to eventually as shown in the Regional Control Centre to take on different aspects of the terraforming system, including restoring more stored plants and animals from cryogenic storage, that given that logically GIAI would have at least indirectly or more likely directly need to eventually communicate with the new humans and that by restricting her ability to do so would eventually cause something to go wrong.

I think that given GIAI hypothesis of what Ted would have done if he became immortal and conceived several different tribes to view him as a god and him having Omega Clearance, he could have off screen placed those “high level directives” on the original GIAI, with Elisabet wanting GIAI to care about the world and being able to interact with its people would have been a step in creating a caring relationship between GIAI and the reborn humans, knowing that she would not approve of his plan but otherwise allowing her to finish the rest of the terraforming process as far as she could without Apollo, with him either being unaware of or overlooking that she could activate the Lightkeeper protocol in a way that would be acceptable by those directives.

With Aloy’s version of GIAI being a slightly older version and from the Proving Lab which was near 100% safe from outside interference would not have been modified with those directives allowing the new version of GIAI to no longer be bound by those directives?

Also if GIAI did indeed had the capability to communicate with the reborn humans from the beginning, in addition to holograms, do you think that she could have created an advanced servitor or several similar to the ones used in Cradles, to create a physical avatar for herself, with all human senses and abilities to interact with humans, with her primary conscious mind remaining in GIAI Prime but divided incarnations of her mind could occupy the servitors?

What do you think?

In my mind maybe the origin point of the Fero Plague could be seen and the areas around it, maybe Australia going in a Mad Max direction but replace cars with machines and taking place 1000 years after the end of the world, showing the first signs of the glitch in detail and the events leading up to Ted contacting Elisabet, maybe including the several other types of robots both civilian and military that are inferred from the lore, but having not yet been identified, with the possibility that the Plague given its ability to override other machines could have been taken over and later destroyed by humans to stop the Plague from creating several fronts behind Op Enduring Victory

If I made a youtube video on HFW... what challenge would y'all want me to do first?

In my mind a potential storyline given where Burning Shores ended the story and the fact that HEPHAESTUS is still active and most likely evolved due to coming into contact with FZ technology and that if NEMESIS needed to travel to Earth at the same speed of FZ and left at the time when the Extinction Signal ended after 17 years, with the travel time meaning that a longer time jump in between the second and third games would be needed, with the Online Game and possibly the Upcoming TV Show as well would show some events in between:

With the possibility that Alloy knowing that with HEPH still creating newer machines, having the APOLLO database and searching for a way to defeat NEMESIS would maybe with the help of the Hunters Lodge would create a new group or expand the organisation, with Alloy and possibly Beta having a leading role in the group, with Alloy leading the hunting of machines with the hunters and thus the players gaining a Focus and Beta leading the group in reintroducing the lost knowledge of APOLLO to the world

with each major update the online game could slowly advance the timeline and show the effects of their progress with the potential that in the beginning there could be only a single individual in a town with a Focus to a small database across point to the larger APOLLO database with some newer forms of farming infrastructure introduced, with the possibility that some knowledge would be limited such as the creation of highly destructive weapons or override tech mainly how to awaken a Metal Devil, in addition to increasing the number and variety of machines.

What do you think, any ideas?

Why the new machines from HFW couldn't be seen in the previous area of HZD? It makes no sense to me that those machines doesn’t appear there.