Drawing parallels between the fictional Quen tribe from Horizon 2: Forbidden West and the real-world nation of North Korea involves extrapolating similarities based on certain thematic elements. Here are ten comparisons between the Quen tribe and North Korea in terms of religion, human rights, freedom, and other aspects.

1. Authoritarian Government (Both the Quen tribe and North Korea are depicted as entities with authoritarian governance structures where power is concentrated in the hands of a select few)

2. Cult of Personality (The Quen's deification of important figures as Ancestors has similarities to the cult of personality surrounding North Korean leaders, where reverence and worship of the leadership are integral to the society)

3. Control over Knowledge (The Quen's focus on ancient knowledge and the role of Diviners in safeguarding it may draw parallels to North Korea's tight control over information and historical narratives)

4. Limited Freedom of Expression (Both the Quen tribe and North Korea restrict freedom of expression, with dissent often suppressed or punished within the society)

5. Social Structure (The hierarchical societal structure within the Quen tribe, with specific roles like Diviners and Ceo, may reflect the rigid social hierarchy seen in North Korea)

6. Isolationism (The Quen's geographical origins across the Pacific Ocean and their relative isolation could be compared to North Korea's historical and contemporary isolation from the international community)

7. Emphasis on Tradition (Both the Quen tribe and North Korea place importance on tradition and the preservation of historical practices within their societies)

8. Secrecy and Propaganda (The Quen tribe's guarded approach to knowledge and historical discoveries may echo North Korea's use of propaganda and control of information to shape narratives)

9. State Religion (While details are limited, the Quen's reverence for their "Ancestors" and retrieval of ancient knowledge could resemble aspects of state-sanctioned religious practices seen in North Korea)

10. Environmental Challenges (Both the Quen tribe and North Korea face struggles related to environmental challenges, with the Quen dealing with catastrophic weather and North Korea experiencing issues like deforestation and natural disasters)

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What if, Varl was ALIVE? After the mission in GEMINI, where everyone supposes he's dead, the Zenith's could have locked him at their base's secret room, and he turns to a Zenith himself? You know, like a half-robot???

I thought an ending with this:

Nemesis arrives to earth and helps Varl-bot (I just thought of that) destroy life on earth!

And at the final mission, Zo tells her child (Do you remember, after GEMINI, when she confessed she was going to have a kid?) to stay back in safety, but the child secretly follows Aloy!

So, at the final battle, when Varl sees his child, decides to help Aloy defeat Nemesis!

BUT, I THOUGHT SOMETHING EVEN MORE CRAZY!

Varl is dead and Nemesis when arrives at earth finds his body at a secret room at the Far Zenith base. Nemesis turns him a Zenith (half-robot I said earlier?) and puts itself into Varl's brain?!?!?!

Nemesis now can control Varl's body and decides to find Aloy pretending to be real Varl to spy her!!!

At the end, the heroes realize their best friend was their worst enemy and here comes the final battle! Zo is hiding at the base to give birth at her baby but when Varl sees his child he suddenly realizes he is a threat to his friends, to his favorite woman and even his son (or daughter)!

He fights Nemesis to regain control of his body but he can't!!!

Without having another choice, Varl kills himself.

What do you think?

The last mission of H3 starts like this:

Aloy and her army arrive from the North into the desert Tenakth. To the West, 950,000 Carja march led by Nemesis in the form of Jiran, with Thunder jaws, Tremor Tusks, and Black Wings at their side, and many are mounted upon Clawstriders, Striders, and Sunwings. To the South, 300,000 Oseram, and 700,000 Carja, brought hoards of Machines at their side rally to the main Carja army. To the West, 4 million Quen come, ready to face the Carja.

"Surrender! For this continent is ours!" Roars the Oseram General at Jiran's side. The Quen exchanges looks, before their leader laughed: "What are you, before the chosen people? Drunks and weak silk wearers, who languish and grovel beneath a light in the sky! We are the chosen people, and not even your machines can protect you!"

Jiran stepped in front, "Chosen? You don't know what chosen means. Let me educate you..." he signaled to the Oseram General, who fired an arrow into the chest of a Quen soldier carrying a banner. The Quen leader turned to the soldier, who, after making a gutteral choke followed by a cough of blood, collapsed to the ground. Then he turned towards Aloy's army. "Have you Barbarians come to kill us, or to kill our enemies?" "Both" said Aloy, "If we have to." Jiran faced her, "I shall be the one to kill you!"

Then the three armies clashed, cutting each other down. Jiran wears Royal Carja armor, and despite doing and receiving lots of damage, fights like a normal human. During the Boss fight, the Eclipse theme song plays. Jiran's armorless after the fight. "Heh heh... Do you think that this can kill me?" He rises up, skin turning gray, eyes turning black, and slams the ground, sending out a massive shock wave. He does more damage during and attacks faster, but has much lower health during this phase. However, he is supported by 2 Oseram generals, a few Carja, and a Clawstrider.

After the boss, Aloy kills Jiran by stabbing him in the chest. The Carja look on in shock. But then, he rises up, ripping the spear outta his chest. He punches Aloy, launching her into the charred ruins of Thornmarsh. The trees are now burnt stumps, and thousands of Lowland Tenakth are crucified upon wooden x’s. In the background, a field is littered with dead Carja, and severely wounded Quen. A great Quen armada docks at the beaches, raining clouds of arrows upon the Carja. Nemesis leaps over towards Aloy, picking her up and throwing her into the Emperor’s ship. Aloy must then fight the Quen soldiers until she finds Alva, standing before the Quen Emperor. “Aloy is here to help us.” she pleads. But the Quen Emperor kicks her into the water.

Nemesis jumps to him, and gouges his eyes out. “Chosen people my ass!” He says, before throwing him hundreds of miles into the Ocean. He transforms into a Deathbringer equivalent of a Specter. During this fight, he has much more health than a Deathbringer, and’s a lot faster. After the fight’s over, he transforms back into a human, and punches Aloy through a mountain into the Bulwark. There, he transforms into a black Specter Prime, with a giant red laser sword. Aloy accesses her focus, “alright, Imma need a suit.” Gaia sends a Specter Prime Suit to Aloy, and with an epic remaster of Aloy’s Theme Song Playing in the background, Aloy and Nemesis have a Mech-Fight. After being defeated yet again, Nemesis rises, “D.C, ours, Ottawa, ours, Beijing, ours, Moscow, ours. We just need a few more major world Capitals, and I can fully conquer this world, a new world. A perfect world, where I’m the King, where I’m the GOD!”

His body forms into a Nano Tech Metal Devil, the size of the No Man’s Land. This is there’s two different options for endings. See which one you like more.

1: Aloy Dies

Knowing there’s no other way to stop him, Aloy goes into the Odyssey, filling it with explosives. Then she flies into the core of Nemesis’ true form, launching all of the Odyssey's firepower before crashing into his core, blowing him up, and creating a gigantic explosion. The screen cuts to all of the moments we’ve had with Aloy over the years, making a very sad ending. We’re fast-forwarded to Plainsong 19 years later, and play as Zo’s child, similar to Rdr2.

2: Sylens Dies

Sylens makes a heroic sacrifice, and we play an ending more similar to HFW’s ending.

Given that Vast Sliver was 20 years older than the original version of GAIA, VS could have been created either partially or fully by a younger Elisabet, given VS’s role as a climate intervention AI, it intended role in helping protect the environment from destruction would align with her personality, and it’s it could have been her original attempt to create a GAIA like AI system, with the potential that Ted attempted to capitalise on VS or was otherwise infected by one of the super virus that he created could have resulted in it going rouge,

Given that for all her intellectual abilities, being able to create the concept of ZD within days of being aware of the situation involving the Faro Plague seems a bit of a stretch, maybe Elisabet had intended VS to be a smaller scale GIAI, with the ideas of some of the Subordinate Functions having been something that she had In visioned for years, only for the Faro Plague to cause those basic concepts to be required under the worst possible circumstances

With the possibility that given the idea of Past Sliver where VS was captured and forced to work against its will, I could see Ted having created another HADES Proving Lab environment to hold it, as for Turning Act Critiqued I could see Elisabet giving that she viewed GIAI as her own person and encouraged her to have her own personality, could have similar to CYAN having created other AI’s beyond the legal limits of O.6, that would be an interesting topic, to see what other AI’s that Elisabet could have hypothetically made during the years after leaving FAS and the start of the Faro Plague, and what became of them, maybe any hypothetical AI’s could be the narrative reason for explaining different parts of Elisabet’s backstory

Maybe Elisabet had been unaware of the truth about the fate of VS and using her considerable intellect and by that point influence, knowing that Ted had captured and imprisoned VS, would come to learn that VS was being harmed, maybe during the events that led to her meeting Travis as help, as I could see him trying to break into a near impenetrable digital facility as something he would do just for the challenge of breaking in, and secretly allowing VS to escape or giving it refuge and also Travis leaking some confidential information that would lead to the Act being viewed negatively, without her explicit permission

As for the idea that was presented in the RSQ video that VS could be connected to the origins of the Banuk Tribe, I think it is no coincidence that among all the tribes that have been encountered there were the only tribe without a definite origin that could be explained in scientific and historical terms, as the Nora’s worldview was influenced by the Mother persona of the caretaker of the Cradles and similar explanations for the origins of the other tribes

Given that the identity of the Ravenous Tribe that attacked Banukai was never revealed and that it is mentioned that the original Banuk came from a cave underground, I could possibly see that given that Elysium would by inference from the fact that the members of the bunker that Aloy fell into as a child could have hypothetically made it to Elysium on foot and that G Prime and other important facilities were located in the same area, I could see the location of the bunker being placed in the vicinity of the map of the first game,

I could see that the survivors within Elysium containing some of the greatest minds in various fields of study, could have intentionally disconnected themselves from the outside world after learning that Ted had killed the remaining Alphas, with VS with its nature of wanting to make connections with people could have either been found a way inside or being draw to the facility, and could have made their own attempt at digital transcendence/mind uploading and either their attempts where unfinished or something happened that stopped the process and forced them outside

With the possibility of cryogenic suspension “being frozen in ice” could have allowed them to survive several generations longer than the projected 100 years by rationing their resources to enable them to survive into the new world, with the passage of time there knowledge and possibly faults and errors accumulating to where only a small fraction of the population would have survived, with maybe VS being one of the few remaining within the bunker

With the possibility that giving RSQ theory about VS and the origin of the Banuk and Banukai with the last two letters of her name being AI would be a hint towards the idea, with the Ravenous Tribe maybe being another group of survivors of the Plague, with Shen noting in the datapoint Log: Margo Shĕn that various individuals from heads of state to CEOs to cults had their own personal bunkers, could have if some of them were anything like FZ would have wanted to possibly of digital immortality, maybe with Ted among them in some way to overcome his mutations before his mind was unresponsive, would have tried to take it by force, maybe with VS maybe in an attempt to gain connections with others would have potentially invited them into Elysium unaware of their true intentions in an effort to gain friendship with others or help the survivors

With the possibility that over time the truth about the story would have been slowly misunderstood and misinterpreted over generations into the currently understood version of the story, with the possibility that VS in an effort to atone for its actions would have assisted Banukai, with the effect of “maintaining the full force of the Blue Light” being a way of explaining a incomplete form of digital transcendence, with maybe some form of memory and information could be retained though individuality would have been unable to be copied fully,

With the possibility that a Sharman would be able to access some of the machines “song“ or data in a fragmented format, with Malmstrom the mentioned only location where the Sharman have their yearly meeting could potentially be located near Elysium, with the possibility that VS could be an unseen helpful guiding hand or VS could play a more overt role given that Ourea was unfazed by the existence of the “spirit” CYAN

With the memories of generations of the Banuk and in an even deeper level the memories of the ZD personal within Elysium being collectively involved in some massive database of information, that would be key to defeating NEMESIS by effectively making use of idea and knowledge that it would have no counter towards, maybe in the form of Aloy undergoing a VR/AR recreation of the events of the Old World and the creation of ZD from the point of view of one of the Gamma’s of the project, maybe even with Aloy viewing some interactions between the members of the database and Elisabet,

As for Vast Sliver itself, I can see VS joining forces with GIAI, with the new version of GIAI lacking 1000 years of development and lacking the processing power that HADES gave her, with VS offering its services to help protect the world, with the potential that to explain why VS never reach out before, VS could have similar to CYAN have been placed in a low power mode or otherwise become wary of forces outside the Banuk, with the possibility that knowledge of Aloy would eventually become known to VS leading it to reach out,

If the idea of VS being involved with digital immortality were true, possibly given the ideas in the RSQ video “Sylens Master Plan”, rest in peace Lance Reddick, then maybe Sylens could have been aware of the possibility that the Old Ones researched such technology given that he was aware of several other medical advances, with his previous experience as a Banuk Sharman leading him to the basic understanding of the concept, though it would not be until NEMESIS would he be aware that digital immortality was possible, I could see him “finding” VS and trying to use it an a manner that would grant him the full knowledge of remaining members of ZD and upload his mind into NEMESIS after Aloy had deleted it original programming, viewing the knowledge of hundreds of scientists as more worthy than the members of FZ

What do you think?

It has been a long while since I was not around, probably long enough that the whole crew that hangs out here has changed. I remember the wild theories and lore talks we used to have and to be honest, I really miss those days. So I would like to revive that tradition of ours with you folks, both in hopes of getting this place a bit more traction and getting to know you guys, because I have no idea who is who but I think this crew has the Blue Light to figure out the answers to some of our questions, especially considering that the amount of both leads and questions has never been more.

I just thought of the craziest thing.

Nemesis arrives on Earth but, for some reason, needs a body, like he wants to get his hands dirty. So, using data from the Zeniths, he creates a clone of Elisabeth Sobeck, but with Zenith-like parts and the ability to turn her arms into weapons, like incorporating Spectre weapons into her body and making them spring from anywhere, or even Spectre-like wings. Then, he transfers himself into the body and the final boss is an evil version of Aloy, a faster, tougher, stronger version of Aloy.

What do you think ?

Hey. I was thinking about the upcoming third game of Horizon franchise, and wondered that how big is the game going to be. Considering that there's still a whole lot of things going on and undone so to say, and the fact that Guerrilla is planning to wrap Aloy's story with that third installment. Whatcha guys think?

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One idea I have regarding the storyline of the upcoming multiplayer game would be:

Given that in order to make the UI make sense where the Focus has played that role, being set in a time and place where knowledge of its capabilities would be somewhat limited to the player, maybe the storyline could be set in between the 2nd and 3rd games where Aloy would reach out to the Hunter’s Lodge and tell Talanah about everything, and explain what was going to happen and gifting her a large cash of Focuses and would enlist her help to gather information and support to help with countermeasures against NEMESIS, with the Aloy camno being in the form of a series of introductions videos about how the Focus works among various special events that could slowly move the world closer to Horizon 3

I could also see the possibility that given the rules of the Hunter’s Lodge about how one becomes leader by in part defeating a particular powerful machine, that some people within the Lodge would seek to give Aloy a greater influence, potentially leadership, being willing to skip the traditional way within the organisation due to having recently defeated a Metal Devil in the Burning Shores once word reaches them, something that she would most certainly reject given her character and not wanting to upstage her friend, though she might be reluctantly persuaded to accept a greater role as potentially a larger part of new recruits would join because of her, something that she would not be comfortable with being venerated even for her hunting powers, with the multiplayer game doing some of the heavy lifting regarding the set up of Horizon 3 in how the world would prepare for NEMESIS, that for new players could be condensed into a series of datapoints among other things

Another potential storyline might be:

As for the timing of the upcoming multiplayer game and the potential overlap with Horizon 3, to prevent any timeline issues, if knowledge of ZD had become commonplace after the events of the third game among the general population with NEMESIS already being defeated, though way of Aloy needing to partially reterraform parts of the world in an effort to heal any damage caused by NEMESIS

With the game starting in the aftermath of the final battle and to repair such damage caused by NEMESIS, potentially being to great or so obvious that such actions would that even for Aloy and GIAI would require additional help from the rest of the world or not being within the normal limits of the machines that would make their activities not work if humans continued to hunt them particularly if HEPH was merged with GIAI or a replacement was created,

Leading to the events of the multiplayer game, where Aloy might either seek to create an organisation that would be separate from all established tribes that could work together with GIAI or expand a pre-existing organisation such as the Hunters Lodge, where she Beta and their friends would be high ranking leaders,

My favourite Horizon game ever is still Horizon 2 Forbidden West ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

I don't understand why play station is so special because ( my xbox players will prob agree) When i have a long day I'm thinking man it would be nice to play some hzd/hfw then I log into my xbox and ... I CANT PLAY MAH GAME because it's not there, I can't say the amount of times I'll sit on my bed and play Slimerancher while I wait for someone to get off the play station. Like pls horizon PLEASE try to make hzd/hfw available on xbox 🙏